Tuesday, March 4, 2008

I am a Marxist monk: Dalai Lama

I suppose this is not really new, but the Dalai Lama says he's a Marxist. He says this is because "Marxism is more ethical, unlike capitalism," according to the express news service in India.

Apparently the Dalai Lama doesn't understand Buddhism's 2nd precept which is:

I undertake the precept to refrain from taking that which is not given.

There's really no way around the fact that Marxism, in whatever form, expressly requires that property be taken from someone. I'm a little confused as to how this is more ethical than "capitalism" which essentially says that people have a right to own personal property and not have it stolen from them.

I'd also like to know how the fact that the Dalai Lama charges for his lectures fits in with the whole Marxist thing. I don't see other Buddhist monks doing this. I especially don't see the "right wing" Buddhist monks charging people money.

In any case, I fail to see anything inherently unethical about capitalism. You can have both greedy and generous people in all kinds of political and economic systems. I personally don't see how forcing people to give up their property is generous. Taking property from unwilling persons is inherently unethical regardless of why it's being done, just as killing is always unskillful.

Real generosity comes from a willingness to give away your own property, not take property from others and give it to those who you think are more deserving.

Furthermore, Marxist economic theory totally ignores the very Buddhist concept of developing skillfulness. In economic terms, skillfulness makes one more efficient and able to produce things of greater value. In fact, we see that in reality wealth is not simply "distributed" as some sort of fixed zero-sum resource, but actually produced by people depending on their skill. So what is more Buddhist here, something that acknowledges the role of and encourages the development of skill or something which doesn't?

The Dalai Lama has, unfortunately, bought into the Marxist lie of capitalism being inherently greedy and Marxism somehow being "fair" and generous. This is necessary to make the leap into the idea that "Buddhism supports Marxism because Marxism is non-greedy" or something. This claim about Marxism is not supported by Dhamma though, and as previously stated, Marxism even violates the second of the fundamental Buddhist precepts.

Really the ideal Buddhist state would probably be "capitalist" in the sense that people would own and trade their own property freely, but it would be populated with people who are simply generous enough to fund all public institutions voluntarily, without having to be taxed through threat of force.

This level of idealism in society will probably never come about though. For this reason it seems reasonable to fall back on the Buddhist concept of moderation and the philosophy of the middle path. In this sense, I'd say that Buddhism supports something more like a mixed economy in which some property is public and some is private. As for what degree of government intervention is required, it depends on what is most beneficial for people. This is why we have people who study economics; good intentions alone are not sufficient. We must develop skillfulness in how we govern, and ensure that programs designed to help people don't turn out to cause more harm than good as they have in every single communist country.

The Buddha, though practice of extremes such as self mortification, realized that extremes don't work. Evidence shows us that the same is true of political and economic extremes as well. It's very sad that the Dalai Lama hasn't come to this realization yet.

4 comments:

JD said...

I tend to agree with you here Robert. My personality is more to the "right" politically, so naturally I have no personal use for socialism, marxism, communism or whatever. I think you brought up some pretty insightful evidence supporting just why Marxism is a violation of the second precept.

"Real generosity comes from a willingness to give away your own property, not take property from others and give it to those who you think are more deserving."

You hit the nail on the head there. That is why I have a hard time supporting people and movements that think it's compassionate to take what is not theirs and redistribute it to others. I have always thought that you can't force an ideal down a persons throat at the barrel of a gun or through legislation alone, that is why something like Marxism will never really work.

Sometimes I get the impression that a lot of American Buddhists are more to the left in the way they think, and in my opinion the left can be just as extreme as the far right. With that said, I have really been enjoying your blog. Be well in your practice.

Robert said...

Someone else's blog also mentions:

"...the desire for state power is itself a form of greed." Where socialism or Buddhism seeks state power beyond what is necessary, even for the "good intention" of prohibiting greed, then that desire too falls into greed."

So the paradox is that you hate greed, so you become greedy for the power needed to end greed. So, at least in the case of communist countries, it seems like they tried to use hate and greed to end greed, and it didn't quite work.

The Dalai Lama apparently thinks that communist countries went wrong because they were too hateful and without compassion, so they just kept on destroying after their revolution was over. (There's a forum discussion on this at E-Sangha.) I tend to think that if they had the compassion that he was talking about in society, they wouldn't have had a revolution in the first place.

My hope for Dhamma in the west is that we can see it disassociated from specific political groups like the far left that cause it to seem like some sort of radical fringe ideology. I think many people don't even try to learn about Buddhism because they see it as part of radical politics, and don't want anything to do with it because of that.

I'm glad you like my blog, and thanks for your comments. Your support is appreciated.

Unknown said...

The Dalai Lama has been trying to position himself as the leader of an autonomous Tibet under Chinese rule for quite a while now. People don't seem to realize this, but he would be more than happy to meet with Chinese leaders if they would give him a chance. And he has said many times that he is not seeking secession for TIbet. If he thought that there was some hope for him to be set up in a semi-official capacity to rule Tibet as an autonomous region, he'd be down with it in a heartbeat. Therefore, his statement here is not unlikely just be an example of realpolitiking rather than a reflection of religious values.

Robert said...

...his statement here is not unlikely just be an example of realpolitiking rather than a reflection of religious values.

Probably true, but many people seem to see him as a sort of spiritual leader. If the Catholic pope were to endorse Marxism people might start to wonder if Christianity somehow supported the idea.